innerhtml and frames

here is my situation. I have a form in on frame of a page.
this form (using javascript) calls a bunch of php pages (I have 0 control over!) and I need to use innerhtml to grab the contents of the php output and find out which one I need.

top page is 2 frames, javascript in frame 1.
second frame of the page has 8 frames inside which house the php. I need to get from that first frame to the html inside the subframes.

index.html -> info
-> main -> abc etc

inside of the info frame I get an access denied error when I try to even access

alert(top.main.abc.name);

anything I try gives an access denied.

Is this because the html in the sub frame abc is not housed on the same server? I do not see why that should make a difference.

Thanks

I found out the issue, canlt do it because it is on another domain!!!

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/om/xframe_scripting_security.asp

any work around for this?

like using includes or something.