search engine rankings with full dynamically driven sites

I found an excellent document online which noted several ways to improve search engine rankings.

One small problem - the sites I make are 100% totally dynamically driven.

which means I can add meta tages up the wazoo, perfect copy etc etc and still not get listed.

has anyone thought about this subject and thought of any solutions?

do robots actually generate the html? I am pretty sure the answer would be no.

also I know robots don't like frames? how do they feel about div objects?

here are a few ideas I had, if anyone has tried any of these to no avail, let me know.

1) making the main front page, I perfectly design page, text based, meta tages, optimized copy etc etc and then do a redirect in the smallest time frame allowed by the browser.

2) in the main file which creates the content include the meta tags and stuff, copy could be invisible (some search engines spot that so maybe have to think about that one)

any ideas????

after reading up on the subject, a lot of search engines do allow you to use dynamic pages, alot still trap and fall on the ?

some suggest rewriting the url

so

www.blahblah.com/aboutus.html

turns into

www.blahblah.com/index.php?page=aboutus

here is a link for how to do this on apache

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/rewriteguide.html

Another popular view is to make a static site map called a gateway page, which you then submit to the search engines and then have links to all your dynamic pages. work involved but seems to be sound.

here is a link to info on this

http://www.semguide.com/DynamicSites.htm

I still don't have a sound answer on whether it is even worth adding search engine ranking optimization to the dynamic pages or not. whether it counts or not.

the new breed of search is link popularity, this seems really crappy to me, just a way to inflat if you are willing to link everyone under the sun on your site, or pay people money!

there has to be an easy way, construct one page (after all that is all you really need on the search engine right? designed as a site map, include this as a text based link on all pages and which is in the actual page which creates the content.

One major issue is that all this seems to take months to get results!

Ahhhhhh!!!!!

I would appreciate some views on this subject.

after a good few hours of study....

seems like mod_rewrite is a very useful idea
most search engines hsould be ok, but this is useful!

and also layers should be ok

I think I have an inital plan of action now, going to check out the rewrite, also will alter my php to allow names instead of just page numbers and then do a site map - will probably use php to auto gen this one and then save results statically.

Is it me or does the thought of having 250 words on the front page of the web site seem like a great big deal??? I hate large amounts of text on a page, I like small blocks that I can read and digest! why is my way of thinking totally against search engines!