PHP capabilities

I'm running several sites hosted by Interland, all on Win2K servers. I'd like to move to some other hosting company, and would like to move to Linux at the same time.

One of the considerations I see is that most Linus sites don't support ASP. Some show ChiliSoft asp, others say that it's not supported on latest versions of Linux.

I'm doing some lightweight stuff with ASP and wonder if PHP is the functionally equivalent tool I'm looking for to use under Linux?

From my first glance, it looks like PHP will do what ASP does. I'm sure some of you will vote that it does more :}

Thx

It really depends on what you are doing. Even though I run a PHP site, I'm not going to tell you that PHP is the only tool to solve a problem. I probably will tell you that ASP is never the tool though

Anyway, PHP will most likely do what you want. If you could give a brief overview of the things you need it to do, we could obviously tell you if PHP can do those things...

lol. php is just _SO_ much more powerful than asp... how do you send mail in ASP (chillisoft, you have to use a CDONTS object, i think)? can you open sockets in ASP? you need to use a very clumsy fileSystemObject to open files in asp, while manipulating files in php is a matter of fopen(), fwrite() and fclose(). the list goes on.

I've seen chillisoft in action. i was _not_ impressed. if you're going linux, go php.

imho.

go php even if you are not going linux!

Not that I'm in any position to judge or question what you say about these languages but I'm curious as to how you people measure the "power" of the language on what your opinions are based, I'd like to know because, well I should really. Go on indulge me, and horror stories are always good for a laugh, well long enough after they happened they are.

anon: true. go php even if you're not going linux ;)

postmoderngoblin: My opinion is based purely on the nightmares i've always had to face when using ASP and how well php has served me

Also, php just supports so much more inherently, without having to resort to very clumsy objects and stuff.. I could go on and on..

Now that this topic is up. Is ASP easier to learn than PHP or not? I am having some trouble with PHP...

ASP would be easier for the absolute beginner.. Making ASP a tutorial language more than anything else and contributes to the general "sloppiness" rating (since more beginners use asp than php) ;)

i tried both languages, ASP and PHP, and leant towards PHP because there was so much more you could do with it. I think its the better choice by far..no matter what server.

btw - Dats, good to see your back, missed ya round here ;)

Alright thanx, i will try to learn ASP then, I am like 30% on PHP since i understand the syntax and all the coding 100%, but its time for me to invent... Thanx.

Thanks d1ngo, good to be back. It's so hard to find time to do anything constructive though.. still reeling from the trip.. eish.

All you gotta know is asp ghetto. Based on visual basic. If you know visual basic, you know asp, and if you know visual basic, then m$ had you brain washed at one point or another. As far as asp's roots, I would say it probably came from qbasic, which to my knowledge was a dos based language, or something like that. The language it self kinda looks like that one language they used for scientific programming.... can't remember the name of it, I think it was lisp or cobalt or something, in any case, it's ancient.

Then they try to hype up a sickly language with their high dollar marketing schemes to let people think that it's the easiest and best possible solution to their problems. On that note, one quick question, has anyone ever found "good" online documentation for asp? I doubt it, cause there is none. Most the asp documentation sites out there aren't geared towards teaching programmers how to program with it, but teaching a bunch of n00bs by showing them examples so that they can copy and paste a lot easier.

Another thing I hate about asp, is that it tries to rely on objects too much, and they're objects are purdy rotten at that. If you want a nice oo language, learn java or something, cause asp just doesn't cut it. Or else program in visual c++, cause at least with c++ you have the opportunity to learn something.

Also, with asp, you can't say asp and portabal in the same sentence unless the sentence looks like this one. If you want to run unreliable m$ boxes, and trust your business with m$, then go right ahead, use asp. Php, perl, c, all fairly portable languages, asp.... please.

Which brings me to another thing, have you ever seen asp code in vi, it's even uglier than it is in notepad. Bottom line, PHP looks good in vi, asp looks good in the trash.

In closing, if I didn't have to look at one more sickly, quickly whipped up, do it for the buck asp page ever again, I would be one happy programmer.

Remember, the only thing that wind0ze is good for is browsing porn and playing games.... that's it.

I mean, how many times have you wrote c code and forgot to allocate something, then all of a sudden, windows crashes. It can't seg fault like a normal os, it takes down everything with it, would you want to trust that with your business, I don't think so.

-Sager

I know both asp and php and id stick with php any day of the week! asp is dead, and boring,

It also is a bitch for me, cos my server runs on linux so i have to use Chilisoft stuff

Fortran

Great post there... I will try learning ASP, perhaps it will be easier for me to learn PHP after that. Now that i am in the mood, i am going to study... bye :-D