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Old May 23rd, 2002, 07:18 PM
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new test deck.txt

This one is always solvable

8C
7C
7H
4H
5C
6D
7S
6C
6H
3H
4C
5D
6S
5H
2H
3C
4D
5S
1H
2C
3D
4S
1C
2D
3S
1D
2S
1S
JH
QH
KH
8H
9H
10H
JC
QC
KC
KD
9C
10C
10D
JD
QD
7D
8D
9D
JS
QS
KS
8S
9S
10S

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Old May 28th, 2002, 12:35 PM
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RE: new test deck.txt

I was really worried about not solving this one until I realised that the stock pile is in reverse order. In that case it's easily soluble. But otherwise it's not. (I get 490 in 60ms processor time, dropping out because stock passes become ineffective.) So if you *can* solve this one, one of us has a bug.

I've put up a whole bunch of decks - mostly soluble ones - on http://dave.cridland.net/.

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Old May 28th, 2002, 01:54 PM
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RE: new test deck.txt

Well that does explain why I cant solve some
of the others. But this deck is special,
because it should allow for a very quick
solve. (all cards are arranged in a way there
is always a good move) (first the entire tableau is moved to the foundation, then the next 3 cards from stock, then the next. etc.)

this should yield the results I meant to provide:
8C
7C
7H
4H
5C
6D
7S
6C
6H
3H
4C
5D
6S
5H
2H
3C
4D
5S
1H
2C
3D
4S
1C
2D
3S
1D
2S
1S
10S
9S
8S
KS
QS
JS
9D
8D
7D
QD
JD
10D
10C
9C
KD
KC
QC
JC
10H
9H
8H
KH
QH
JH

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Old May 28th, 2002, 04:33 PM
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RE: new test deck.txt

Yeah, that's what I thought.

But you can move cards from the stock to the tableau, and score more. I got 675 in 50ms, but I'm reasonably sure different algorithms could score more than that.

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Old May 29th, 2002, 08:41 PM
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RE: new test deck.txt

so, how it is - can i play again and again (look for all combinations) and in the end show only combination, which got most points? imho it's cheating.

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Old May 30th, 2002, 12:30 PM
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RE: new test deck.txt

Playing multiple algorithms has been declared not cheating by Matt. There's some debate about whether you're allowed to remember the path through the decision tree, though. IMHO, that'd be cheating, but others disagree.

Personally, I'm trying to find a general algorithm which gets the highest points I can on random decks, while keeping the speed low. But that'd just me.

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