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Old September 26th, 2003, 07:06 PM
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Outsourcing nothing new

Outsourcing is nothing new! It has been done for years. It is only recently affecting the IT community. Look at the automobile, Steel, micro technology industries They have been outsourcing these for years. Granted it affects the economy but that is the nature of business (make as much money as possible as cheap as possible). While I don’t agree with it I understand it. Remember it was the government that hired people from India to handle the Y2K recoding. Hmmmm…… could this have been the beginning of the IT outsourcing?
One of the other threads mentioned Licensing people to use computers…..just what we need more government involvement in our lives! If IT people don’t like stupid questions get in a different line of work…. People as a whole can be rather stupid at times. I agree things are getting more complicated as our industry grows and matures. But we in the industry have to make our product as simple to use as possible. That’s why Microsoft is thriving.
As to the superiority thread….Man get away from the computer and look around!


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Granted it affects the economy but that is the nature of business (make as much money as possible as cheap as possible).


Exactly. That's what they've just taught me at school. Cow, do you mean that we should go back to renaissance and merchantilism? There would be no importing but also exporting would be very little.

It was an englishman called Adam Smith who "invented" that marketing should be free. Or well, actually, before him a Finnish guy called Anders Chydenius invented it but he wrote it in Swedish so he didn't become known outside Finland and Sweden.

Okay, enough history. But what I'm saying is that this is the way how world goes today. Changing it is kinda going back in time. And shouldn't we be advancing?

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Old September 28th, 2003, 03:00 PM
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RE: Outsourcing nothing new

For some reason when people read my articles they want to take my thoughts to the extreme. Lets look at some other reasons why this idea is bad. First off did you ever call Cisco for tech support? I can't understand a word they are saying, this makes support worthless. Second in the programming forum it is difficult to keep a handle on it. On word SECURITY how comfortable would you feel having all your business information on an application that was developed in a country that dislikes your country. Not just America, every country has another country that they have ill feelings for. What fun it would be to write backdoors in an application. I did not even stratch the surface of the security implications of this.

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RE: Outsourcing nothing new

that is just plain silly. should that go the other way around?

should the whole world stop using products from US?

i think that will have a bigger impact on the US economy than outsorsing, because you probably export more than you import...

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Old September 28th, 2003, 05:37 PM
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RE: Outsourcing nothing new

Now zombie you are being silly. Stop using our technology? Please do, start with these four. The Computer, The Plane, The Telephone and The Car.Oh wait make it five, The Internet

You dn't understand our economy. We import far more than we could ever think of exporting. We support much, too much of the worlds economy.

You and many sit by and judge our country driven by "Class Envy" you believe what you are told to believe by your media.

Your should be worried about where the technology of your software comes from. A well written trojan horse could bring the internet down completely. You are not seing that. You are too hung up on Feel sorry for me, I live in a third world country. America is rich and our country is not because Americans are greedy. We as American help other contries too much but we are a country driven by a bunch of tree hugging hippie crap.

Zombie I have respect for you but you don't understand our economy. You might like the article I am going to post tonight better. I get married to a computer

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RE: Outsourcing nothing new

i knew it.. oh, never mind. i can't argue when you start to talk like that...


just two quick things.

americans did not invent the car (no, henry ford didn't invent it. he invented other things, like assembly line, mass production and such).

second, do you know who Nikola Tesla is? well, he is serbian who invented a lot of things. too much to list here. let's just say that the world wouldn't look like this if it wasn't for him. (for example, alternating current that powers the whole world. without it, ther would not be computers and even worse, the internet).

but does the fact that he was serbian makes me better than you? no, it doesn't. that is plain silly.


it looks to me (or it did) that you are exporting more than you import. if that is not true, i am sorry.

but it doesn't change the fact we are living in a global economy, and the world is going to move forward only if we work together, not if we get separated again. that is backwards thinking, going to the medieval ages.. again...


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RE: Outsourcing nothing new

I understand, but you read too far into the article. The bigger picture of the article was how these software companys will shoot themselfes in their own foot.

As for our inventors every country has their own. I believe our best came from Germany decent but thats my opinion.

And now Nikola Tesla. He moved to America as did everyone here in this country, he also is an American. He made the tesla coil as well as some other electrical advancements include.

What is even more silly is that we are debating this at all. I will have my new article up tonight we'll start over.

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RE: Outsourcing nothing new

i told you first that this was silly. don't you steal my quote!


btw, see, we need to work together, not apart. you say it yourself, some of your best inventors where from germany (from hitler, but hey ;)), france or serbia.

see, we can only do it together. you supply the money, we supply the brains...


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